2011-08-19 "Johnny Moon/Fukushima Radiation Horrors."
Dr. James Fetzer interviews Mike Palacek/Leuren Moret. (The
Real Deal, MP3 download link Here,
41.5 MB, 1:57:58). The first half involves Mike Palacek's
book about the impact of the JFK assassination, the second
half interview with Leuren Moret begins at 1:02:26.
with Leuren Moret starts in the second half of the show at
Fetzer: This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Real
Deal, with the second part of our show today is an ongoing
conversation with Leuren Moret, an independent geo-scientist
who has been focusing her attention on Fukushima and its consequences
and doing quite remarkable, even stunning work in my opinion.
She has recent developments that I thought were important
enough to abbreviate my conversation with Mike Palacek although
I love his work, as I presume was obvious, in order to add
these new developments for you today. Leuren, welcome back
to this show.
L. Moret: Oh,
thank you so much.
Dr. Fetzer: Tell us, what are some of these
new developments? I mean, I am simply appalled by what you
are discovering. Everyone needs to know more.
L. Moret: Well, this week, today is August
19th, its been reported this week that the radiation levels
measured in Toronto, Canada are as high as 20,000 counts per
minute which is three hundred and thirty three becquerels
per square meter, and that is very, very high. At 100 counts
per minute people should get out of the area. And just citizens
up in Canada are taking swipes and going out into the woods
and measuring the radiation levels. The 20,000 counts per
minute are higher than they have ever measured up there or
reported since this Fukushima disaster started. So we do know
that this week the Fukushima power plant has been releasing
radioactive steam from cracks in the earth. And what that
means is the melted fuel that dripped out of the nuclear reactors
at Fukushima just within six hours after the earthquake, all
of the fuel had dripped out of the reactors. And within about
24 hours it had melted through all the containment vessel
in the reactor and everything and was dripping and melting
through the floor under the reactor and dropping down into
the basement below, and what that means -- this is the China
Syndrome -- what that means is that the radioactive molten
fuel has now melted down through the ground, and is hitting
the water table, and that is what is creating the radioactive
steam. And it is over here already. I have a Gamma Scout,
a German a very good geiger counter that has been taped at
eye level to my printer since March 11th, and the levels are
elevated over the last two days. So that radiation from Japan
is already over here. And that is what they are already measuring
Dr. Fetzer: Very disturbing. Very
disturbing. Am I to understand that one of the most effective
ways to develop radiation is to have a bomb explode high in
the atmosphere and then have it rain down on the population
you are targeting?
L. Moret: That is correct, and in a 1947
or 1948 article in the Tulsa newspaper, this in Tulsa, Oklahoma,
they had an article on nuclear bombs. And in that article
they stated the most efficient way to carry out a nuclear
war is to explode nuclear bombs in rain clouds, because very
very tiny particles form in the nuclear bomb explosion, because
so much energy is released. Those extremely tiny particles,
which are fission products -- over 1,300 different radioactive
isotopes come out of a nuclear explosion -- and those become
part of atmospheric dust in the atmosphere. They act as nucleating
agents for moisture, and attract moisture until they are heavy
enough to be a rain drop and fall out of the sky, with the
radioactive particle in the center. And I did get the bombing
runs, the number of bombing runs from a think tank in Washington,
D.C. between 2002 and 2006 I believe, or it may have been
2004 to 2008, and I looked at the monsoon rain cycle in central
Asia and I was able to show that in Iraq and in Afghanistan
the peak bombing periods with depleted uranium bombs and other
exotic weapons, which we don't even know what they are, has
been occurring or has been synchronized with the monsoon rainy
season, so they are raining out all that radiation all across
Asia. And certainly the drop in fertility, the increase in
conjoined twins, or what people call Siamese twins, which
are very rare, are much more common now. And also all kinds
of pathway cancers, there is now an epidemic of esophageal
cancer. That is the wind pipe and throat, the esophagus. And
that is called the Silk Road esophagus epidemic. The Silk
Road esophageal cancer epidemic. And that is happening all
across Asia. And it is from the rainout of the nuclear war
that the U.S. military is carrying out in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Dr. Fetzer: You know I had a guest on just
this week who was talking about the U.S. Navy conducting war
games off the West Coast involving depleted uranium, Leuren.
I mean this just goes on and on. It is a horror story that
appears to be -- it is going to have ramifications and consequences
L. Moret: Well, the half life of depleted
uranium is 4.5 billion years. It takes at least ten half lives
to reduce that radioactivity to a low amount, and so that
is 45 billion years for all the uranium they have released
all over this planet. It is almost all Queen Elizabeth's uranium.
Most of it is mined in Canada, although Afghanistan, and Tibet,
some of the Himalayan countries have even more than Canada.
So its obviously a depopulation agenda. The U.S. Navy is very,
very, very active in it. It is all being carried out and developed
by the Anglo-Dutch monarchies, and these are what I call the
gangsters in tiaras. It is Queen Elizabeth and Queen Beatrice
of the Netherlands. And Prince Philip and Prince Bernhard
who was the father of Queen Beatrice are the two major actors
in planning and carrying out this global genocide. And that
is exactly what they do. We are in the middle of a nuclear
war and people don't even know it.
Dr. Fetzer: What is the rationale for the
depopulation program? I mean there are so many indications
of so many wars taking place in so many different parts of
the world it is very difficult to believe there isn't something
underlying all of this that has those features. But I have
such a hard time understanding why there would be a desire
to reduce the population of earth so dramatically. Some estimates
have it taking from six billion to two billion. Some even
dramatically less than that. What is your take on what is
going on here?
L. Moret: Well people should read a very
interesting research paper "The
Coming Fall of the House of Windsor [PDF]." And this
is why Lyndon LaRouche, he wrote it in 1994, he identified
Prince Philip and Prince Bernhard as the main actors in the
depopulation agenda although it is several hundred years old,
but it is from the British. It is to gain control and increase
wealth upwards. Gain control of mineral resources. Gain control
of land masses. Gain control of essential resources such as
water, timber, things like that. There was no overpopulation
in the 1700's, that is for sure, and yet that is when Malthus
came up with this overpopulation agenda. In fact, Jim, I did
a paper on indigenous agricultural technologies and indigenous
crops in pre-Columbian times around Lake
Titicaca in Bolivia and Peru. And geographers and archeologists
have never have been able to explain why the Indian population
was ten times higher around Lake Titicaca in pre-Columbian
times, and it is one tenth now. And so these geographers,
soil physicists, archeologists went to Peru about 20 years
ago. They planted indigenous crops, indigenous potatoes. It
is a purple potato that the Peruvians eat. They used indigenous
agricultural technologies, the shape of the bed the potatoes
were planted in. How they fertilized it by scooping the mud
out of the irrigation ditch. And they were able to produce
ten times the yield of potatoes from this indigenous technology.
And the fields that had planted according to the dictates
of the World Bank who had loaned money for the crops produced
one tenth of the potato crop and yet they were planted side
by side. And so I finally realized that world famine is a
total product of capitalism, Western capitalism. And I was
very, very surprised six months later to read Marx and Engels
had said the same thing, and so indigenous food, the wild
food that is gathered is five times more nutritious. And the
agricultural technologies produce ten times as much yield
in the crops, so obviously the planet is not running out of
food. We are running out of sane people running this world.
And its all a hoax, there is plenty of food, it is just that
these greedy people, and I call them basically the roots of
it, and the driving force is the Anglo-Dutch monarchies, and
I call them gangsters in tiaras. It is Queen Elizabeth of
England and Queen Beatrice of Holland, the Netherlands.
Dr. Fetzer: But I am still baffled as to
why a dramatic reduction in the world's population is supposed
to be beneficial to their interests.
L. Moret: Well what you have to do is to
Coming Fall of the House of Windsor" by Lyndon LaRouche
Dr. Fetzer: Yes.
L. Moret: And he exposes the whole depopulation
agenda and how it is being carried out over the last one hundred
years. And its too much in depth to go into now, because it
would take the next five hours to talk about it and explain
it, but it is very well explained in "The
Coming Fall of the House of Windsor."
Dr. Fetzer: Can you give me a capsule summary
to give me a leg up on this because, I mean honest to God,
this has been rather baffling to me. There are so many menial
tasks that the wealthy are not going to perform for themselves.
You need so many workers to pick the tomatoes --
L. Moret: You know, Let me stop you right
there, because what you are doing is you are using logic,
which makes sense, which is sane, to explain illogical things.
Basically you are trying to use logic to explain insanity,
and it just doesn't work.
Dr. Fetzer: Well I had a conversation about
this with Paul Craig Roberts who may be our leading public
intellectual. He was an Assistant Secretary of the Treasury
to the Reagan administration but he is no ideologue. He is
quite brilliant. And I had him on this show and kept him on
for an extra fifteen minutes to ask him the following question.
I said "It seems to me in dong all this outsourcing by
these corporations where they saving on all this labor and
inflating their profit margins, it is ultimately going to
be at the cost of the middle class and its discretionary spending,
so who is going to buy the expensive products they like to
market? I mean the television sets, the automobiles, and all
that when there is no longer a middle class?" And he
said to me, Leuren, that he had tried to make that point with
the directors of these corporations but they just wouldn't
listen. They are putting their short term profits ahead of
their long term considerations and basically putting themselves
out of business.
L. Moret: Well what is always happened is
that the business plan, in for instance the United States
especially, is one business quarter of the year. That is three
months. And they can change that business plan any time they
want to . When I went to Japan, I was told they have a one
year business plan, a five year business plan, a ten year
business plan, a five hundred year business plan. And so Asia
operates very differently than the West does. And what is
happening now is that this is just a pump and dump cycle.
They pumped up the Unites States, they pumped up Japan, and
that was a big economic work horse that pumped out a lot of
money into the world economy. But what has happened now is
now they are dumping the U.S. and Japan and a lot of first
nation countries. They are dismantling them because the new
pump is China, and there are huge mining enterprises all over
the world, especially in the Commonwealth where the Queen
of England, the monarchy, owns all of the mineral rights to
the entire Commonwealth. And so what they are doing right
now, because they have always kept the population down in
Canada and Australia where there is tremendous mineral wealth,
they are depopulating both of those countries and the United
States, and they are going to mine the hell out of all of
that continental material to provide China with the raw resources
and the minerals that they need to pump up their economy.
And then in a couple of hundred years they will dump China
and they will pump another region. South America or Africa,
who knows. But it is the pump and dump cycle, and that is
how they steal all the accumulated wealth of each
generation, the fruits of their labor, and this has been going
on for centuries. They do it the same way. Pump and dump,
pump and dump, pump and dump.
Dr. Fetzer: Well that is fascinating, Leuren.
I must say in relation to some of your observations about
American corporations, they appear to have been profoundly
affected by the Milton Friedman principle, that the only social
obligation of a corporation is to maximize profits for its
stockholders, which of course means find the cheapest labor
you can, avoid taxes if you can, exploit natural resources,
don't clean up your own pollution and create monopolies. All
of which are the kinds of practices we see demonstrated by
these multinational corporations that have no loyalty to any
particular nations, certainly not to the United States of
L. Moret: Well 17 corporations own all the
rest of the corporations. So there are 17 corporations that
are running the whole world. Who run those corporations? I
can tell you who it is, it all comes out of the City of London
bankers and the Anglo-Dutch monarchies. I was talking to Marion
Fulk who is one of the last Manhattan Project scientists alive,
and he made the hydrogen bomb work for the United States nuclear
weapons program. And he also has been my mentor since the
year 2,000. And, let us see what I asked him -- [Editor's
Note: Later in this interview Ms. Moret remembers that Marion
Fulk posed the question "Who is making these back X-ray
scanners for the airports for the security?" -- and she
gives his answer]
Dr. Fetzer: You were talking about the City
of London and the role of the bankers and so forth and consolidating
all of this. A small number of corporations that own all the
L. Moret: I just completely blanked out --
Dr. Fetzer: You were going to peruse that
issue. Let me squeeze in while you are thinking about that
L. Moret. OK
Dr. Fetzer: I have an article discussing
Milton Friedman's principle, and why it is grotesque, and
why Marjorie Kelly in her book Divine
Right of Capital proposes the alternative conception,
that corporations have an obligation to meet, to satisfy the
interests of stakeholders, everyone who has an interest in
the consequences of the actions of those corporations. Not
just the stockholders, who are going to make money out of
them, but all the
populations in the environment that are affected. The article
of mine that addresses this squarely is "Are
Corporations Inherently Corrupt?" It is in OpEdNews,
I just encourage anyone who wants to ponder this issue in
greater depth, because it is profound, if you want to understand
why we are in such terrible shape. Corporations are operating
on the wrong principles and require dramatic revision if we
were to overcome the problem, which in all probability given
the political control that the corporations exert over our
legislators and our Congress are most likely to happen, but
if you at least want to understand why we are going down the
toilet economically and in other ways, then you may want to
look this article "Are Our Corporations Inherently Corrupt?'
Have you recalled where you were going? You were mentioning
your mentor, he sounded like a very impressive fellow --
L. Moret: I can't remember what I was talking
about, but --
Dr. Fetzer: I was still pushing that issue,
of what is the benefit to these entity's interests, let us
say the queens, for example, the terrors of dramatically reducing
the population. You used the dump -
L. Moret: Pump and dump.
Dr. Fetzer: The pump and dump model, which
is quite illuminating if we look at this from the big picture
perspective. I mean the idea that the United States could
become a wasteland, just an enormous site for mining and other
enterprises is just traumatizing. Traumatic concept!
L. Moret: I have been spending a lot of time
with native Americans and indigenous peoples all over the
world, and they have been the real targets and victims. The
American Indians, on their tribal lands have 70% of the energy
and mineral resources. And they have been horribly targeted
by the City of London mining companies like Peabody Coal that
has been mining coal and has been destroying the Navajo reservation.
And they come in, they form a new company, new mining company.
Vancouver, British Columbia, is kind of the center where they
do that. And they completely rape the land, poison all the
water, and the food, and destroy the environment which the
Indians depend on to live in their traditional ways, and then
they go bankrupt and leave. And leave the whole mess, and
there is no accountability. And it is all coming from the
City of London financiers. Oh, Marion Fulk asked me, "Who
is making these back X-ray scanners for the airports for the
security?" And I said, "I think it is Michael Chertoff
who is the head of Homeland Security." He said, "No,
no. It has got to be a company that has been in this business
a very long time." And I said, "Well, I am at my
computer, and I will just do a search." And up popped
-- the very first company that popped up -- was Philips Electronics
in the Netherlands. They are the ones. It is the Dutch Queen
making all of these airport scanners and that is another piece
of the depopulation agenda.
Dr. Fetzer: Right, I gather they have not
even tested it to determine how much radiation exposure is
being given to those who aren't using them, and that there
is a high rate of leukemia and other cancer-induced diseases
among those who are working for TSA. This is all quite scandalous
Loren, we have to take our break. Jim Fetzer, your host on
the Real Deal with Leuren Moret, we will be right back. [Start
of break at 1:26:49, end of break at 1:31"17]
Dr. Fetzer: This is Jim Fetzer, your host
on the Real Deal, continuing my conversation with Leuren Moret
about the horrors of depopulation and related issues from
Fukushima to the TSA. Tell me more about these radiation scanners
because these search scanners they use at the airports, Leuren,
because you may very well be right.
L. Moret: Well, Marion Fulk and I had a long
conversation and I began looking in peer-reviewed scientific
research papers on the frequencies of airport scanners and
cell phones, and I found many, many studies that have been
done on specific frequencies that have been included or used
in these airport scanners and cell phones, and the effects
are horrendous. It is all in the scientific literature. It
is infertility. It is prostate cancer. It is neurological
illnesses. It is cancer. It is hormone disruption. It is all
kinds of biological effects. They have already done all the
research and they know full well what the effects are. And
it is all deliberate. It is part of the depopulation agenda.
There are even public buildings, office buildings, government
buildings in Washington DC where you have to walk through
an X-ray machine every time you enter that building. What
about people who go into work in the morning, go out for lunch
at noon, and then maybe go out once or twice a day to meetings.
Those people are being fried.
Dr. Fetzer: That is stunning. It is absolutely
stunning. It is absolutely stunning.
L. Moret: It is really stunning, and I also
discovered in doing research on HAARP that the really big
electronic companies are owned by the bankers and the monarchies.
Dr. Fetzer: Oh really?
L. Moret: Yes.
Dr. Fetzer: Michael Chertoff I gather has
a really big chunk of investment in all of these companies.
And of course he has been in this unfortunate position of
having been director of Homeland Security, and now that is
having a great influence on his successors.
L. Moret: Well he was very carefully selected
and you should know that his mother worked for El Al Airlines.
Isn't that -- what is the Israeli airline?
Dr. Fetzer: It is El Al, yes.
L. Moret: She was one of the very, very early,
one of the first Mossad agents in Israel, and she flew on
planes to Spain to pick up Sephardic Jewish children, thousands
of them, and bring them back to Israel where the U.S. government
had paid Israel to X-ray their brains and their heads. What
they did is they said that they were treating them for ring-worm
with X-rays, and then they studied the brain damage in thousands
of Sephardic Jewish children that were brought to Israel,
and it was Chertoff's mother who was on the planes as a stewardess
or flight attendant bringing these poor innocent children
to Israel. This genocide and depopulation is directly a Zionist
program. It is a Zionist program . Zionism is not Judaism.
Zionism is Satanism. It is driven by greed. And trying to
concentrate wealth upwards. It is Christians who are not Christians,
Jews who are not Jews, Muslims who are not Muslims. It is
Zionism and it is Satanism.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, the best I have been able
to sort out about Zionism when I realized how important it
is, but it had not been a part of my conceptual awareness
up until the last few years I began featuring Barry Chamish
and Stephen Lendman and others who are more expert on this
subject than I, and I even had a conversation with David Ray
Griffin about it, and it appears to me that Zionism is really
a political movement or ideology that believes in a greater
Israel and Jewish superiority and in the entitlement of Israel
to the lands of Palestine which is of dubious historical justification,
but also a whole lot of other issues about the acquisition
of power and the control of political decisions, especially
here in the United States.
L. Moret: Well, people think that Zionism
is about Israel, it is not. Zionism is about a larger apparatus,
in fact I would say that Dope Inc, which is the British global
drug traffic economy, which is five times larger for every
dollar in circulation in the legitimate economy, world economy,
there is $5 or other currency equivalent in the Dope, Inc.
economy, and it is a completely secret economy. That is what
took down China in the 1800's. It started in the 1700's, because
China refused to trade silk, tea, and porcelain with the British.
They wanted to be paid in gold or silver. They did not want
anything produced from the industrial revolution in China,
I mean in Britain. They had much better stuff they had produced
over five thousand years. And so the British said, "Well,
we don't want to give them all our gold and silver, so we
will just invade India, grow the opium there, and we will
take down China with drugs." And it is a horrendously
profitable industry. The headquarters are in Hong Kong, and
I went to Burma a year and a half ago, and that country is
kept down with that military junta, which we have put into
power. And Halliburton
and the Chinese are looting the natural resources of Burma
every day. They are building oil refineries and pumping oil
in a race to steal everything out of that country. And the
people are living like they did ten thousand years ago. There
are no cars or motorcycles or anything out in the country
in those villages. They walk out into the fields every day.
They work all day, and they walk back to the village. There
might be one light bulb in the village somewhere, but basically
they get up with the sun and they go down with the moon. So
when you actually visit these countries, Burma is a wall to
wall drug factory, border to border, north to south and east
to west, and the U.S. and the Chinese are operating that drug
operation. That is why we are in Afghanistan. That is why
we went to Vietnam. It was all for drugs. The present Prime
Minister of England, David Cameron, and the son of Princess
Anne have both worked, well Princess Anne's son is based
Matheson in Hong Kong, they go to Hong Kong, they get
trained by Dope Inc at their headquarters, and they get sent
back to England to work in politics, or economics, or whatever,
and the biggest, richest families in England and the United
States, basically the Boston Brahmins all made their money
as sea captains transporting opium to China and illegally
selling it there. The Dutch East India company, all these
companies -- the Hudson Bay company, are part of the gangster
apparatus, the Anglo-Dutch monarchies that are the headquarter
of all this horrendous looting and genocide.
Dr. Fetzer: Really stunning stuff, Lauren.
L. Moret: It is what is happening.
Dr. Fetzer: Yes, yes. We are living in a
drug dominated world where it seems to me the legalization
of drugs as Ron Paul has suggested is the obvious first step
in bringing some semblance of balance back because then you
deprive these sources and agencies of the vast profit they
are making where the CIA has become the largest drug dealing
operation in the world. You no longer have to chase after
drug gangs and prosecute ordinary civilians because they prefer
to smoke their high rather than drink it. I just believe the
whole war on drugs was a sham or cover story to keep drugs
illegal and profits high.
L. Moret: That is right, absolutely right.
Dr. Fetzer: LIsten, because it is so valuable
having you here to talk about Fukushima, I noticed in one
of your recent articles you talked about how Japan, the U.S.
and Canadian governments are complicit. That misleading radiation
surveys and maps have been provided to Japan by the U.S. government.
That you reveal that you have discovered the misleading radiation
surveys and maps released by the Japanese government that
are supposed to be radiation levels from the Fukushima area
were actually originally authored and created by the U.S.
Department of Energy, then passed secretly to the government
of Japan, which made them public as though they were their
own, or released them jointly with the U.S., all to mislead
the people of Japan and indeed of the world.
L. Moret: That is correct, and the way I
found this out is I have a Japanese friend and he spent a
lot of time at my house and I have educated him a lot and
taken him to meet people who have helped me, and he decided
to hack one of the Cesium contamination maps that was jointly
released by the Japanese government and the U.S. Government.
And guess what? The map was a contamination map of Fukushima
Prefecture or the northern third of Japan. And it said on
the map "Jointly released by Japanese and U.S. Government."
He hacked the top layer, and took that off, and underneath
was the same map in that document, but it said, "Map
by Department of Energy." And so that is when we began
to be very suspicious, and do a lot more investigation as
to the involvement of the U.S. Government in the whole response
to the Fukushima disaster because it has all gone sideways
or backwards or upside down because they are deliberately
spreading the radiation all over Japan. The government has
trapped the citizens in Fukushima Prefecture. They cannot
leave unless the government evacuates them and gives them
money to leave. Japan is very expensive to live in, and where
would they go? They wouldn't have jobs, they have families
to take with them. They have to take the elderly members of
the family with them. And so it is impossible for most people
to evacuate, so what I starved investigating was, "OK,
who is running this whole thing?" And the first thing
I looked at was that map which told me that the U.S. Department
of Energy was involved. And I investigated the Director of
the Department of Energy, the Secretary of Energy who was
Well he received the Nobel Prize while he was a Stanford for
his work on alternative energy. Two years before Obama became
President, Steven Chu was chess-moved into the Lawrence
Berkeley Lab, which is where the Manhattan Project started.
And was made director of the Lawrence Berkeley Lab, and British
Petroleum gave him five hundred million dollars to set up
a British Petroleum industrial park at the Lawrence Berkeley
Lab under the Department of Energy and the University of California,
and he said at the time that the chief British Petroleum scientist
Steven Koonin was his twin. His --
Dr. Fetzer: Twin? biological?
L. Moret: No, he called him his twin, his
alter ego, or whatever. And so apparently they were working
closely even then. The Crown, which is the Queen of England,
and/or the City of London bankers also gave Obama 500 million
dollars to begin his presidential campaign. And as soon as
Obama became president, he appointed Steven Chu as the Secretary
of Energy, and Steven Chu immediately appointed Dr. Steven
Koonin as his under secretary for science. So it is British
Petroleum agents, Steven Chu and Steven Koonin who supervised
and ran and monitored for President Obama, also a recipient
of British money, the Gulf oil disaster, and they set back
and let BP absolutely poison the whole Gulf and the whole
eastern part of the United States with very toxic chemicals,
Corexit, which I think it is even illegal to use it,. And
they did nothing and they let it all happen. And now they
are doing the same thing with the Fukushima disaster, and
you can trace both of them, all three of them, directly to
funding and the positions they are in now are directly related
to their activities on behalf of Elizabeth and the Crown of
Dr. Fetzer: Well I think the fact that the
government did nothing really to control BP in relation to
the Gulf of Mexico is a stunning indictment of not just the
Obama administration, but President Obama himself who has
to be simply a tool or figurehead that is operating at the
behest of these major corporations.
L. Moret: Well Obama is a third generation
CIA operative. His mother, his father, his step father, and
his grandparents were all CIA, so he is just a CIA dictator.
And we have been under a CIA dictatorship since George Herbert
Walker Bush was president.
Dr. Fetzer: Let me ask you this, Leuren.
And it has not crossed my mind before, though, and I don't
know why I didn't think about it. The United States should
have gone ballistic when BP created this disaster. We should
have brought all of our power to bear upon them, not only
to get it done, but not to allow them to use Corexit, which
made the matter overwhelmingly worse. I mean the ecological
and evolutionary consequences of this disaster are almost
unfathomable. What about the little island nations? What about
Cuba, for example, which is surrounded by water here?
How can the Cuban people be possibly coping with the contamination
of the waters of the Gulf of Mexico?
L. Moret: It is much worse than that. I have
the only reliable information on the radiation levels actually
being released from Fukushima, and where they were spreading
and going. It was from the comprehensive Test Ban Treaty monitoring
programs, and the best one releasing the best information,
including animated maps of the plumes coming across the Pacific,
and that is in Cologne University in Germany. And that is
just about the only reliable information besides the NILU
information coming out of Norway, but they got shut down and
Cologne is no longer reporting. And I know why. I knew as
soon as Cologne announced they would stop reporting radiation
levels on July 31st or 30th, I said they are going to release
a whole lot more, and I am sitting here looking at my geiger
counter right now, in Berkeley California, and that is exactly
what they did. And that is the radiation they are measuring
in Toronto and New York and Long Island and even here.
But it is not reported. And I forgot your question.
Dr. Fetzer: It is stunning -- it was about
the effects of the Gulf contamination on the island nations
of Cuba and others, but Leuren, look at how corrupt this is.
I mean not only should Cologne not be ceasing to
report the radiation levels, but it is obvious that they are
becoming even more important that they should be reporting
them. I mean their moral and intellectual obligation to report
them is greater now than it has ever been.
L. Moret: Well that does not count any more.
Principles and morals and laws and treaties, none of that
counts any more. It is all off the table. They are doing exactly
what they want to and they are rolling out a global depopulation.
And what I was trying to say is that when I looked at the
radioactive Iodine and Cesium releases over March, April,
May and June that was released by the CTBT
program at Cologne, I was horrified because at the beginning
and at the end of April when the wedding occurred in England
between -- Prince William got married, the radiation levels
of radioactive iodine went up in the southern part of the
United States, higher than the West Coast, higher than Hawaii,
and almost to the levels of Japan. And I said, "Oh my
God, that is when the tornado storms were happening. So they
deliberately are using HAARP to heat up areas and regions
and they are using fluid dynamics of high pressure and low
pressure areas to guide these extremely radioactive plumes
into certain regions that they really want to nuke. And there
is an NHK television one and a half hour documentary on independent
scientists in Japan. NHK is the biggest network in Japan.
It is a government-sponsored network, and yet on March 15th
NHK took these independent Japanese scientists, who quit their
jobs because the government would not allow them to monitor
the Fukushima radiation, and for two months NHK filmed them
and drove them all over Fukushima with extremely sophisticated
instruments, and they have now created the best and the first
and the only research study on radiation levels, and even
including the short half life isotopes following a horrific
global nuclear disaster. This is the only study that has been
released and they did extremely careful data gathering and
analysis and it is a fantastic documentary. I am going to
send you the link and I want you to post it. And in that documentary
they mention that when reactor number three exploded with
all the plutonium fuel, the air flow was changed and took
it directly into Tokyo, and today Tokyo is more radioactive
Dr. Fetzer: Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
L. Moret: And then I helped to arrange for
Dr. Fetzer: You are talking about genocide.
You are talking about extinguishing life on the Japanese islands.
L. Moret: Extinguishing a whole
Dr. Fetzer: A whole country.
L. Moret: A whole country, and I also learned
that the British for the last 150 years have wanted to destroy
Japan. Well they just did. And it is very obvious from the
research that I have done that it goes right to the Crown
of England and the City of London financiers.
Dr. Fetzer: Leuren, can you give us the title
or tell us how we can find that YouTube video. Can you give
us the link, or is it a whole bunch of numbers and letters?
L. Moret: Oh, I can't remember. I have to
send it to you because I don't have it right in front of me.
It just came out dubbed in English. They released it in April.
Dr. Fetzer: Do you remember the title of
L. Moret: I can't remember.
Dr. Fetzer: OK, OK. Well what you are describing
is just horrifying. I mean the idea of destroying an entire
nation, not to mention one with such an exquisite history,
such a fascinating country as Japan where I have been myself
in Japan on three occasions. And it is all --
L. Moret: And I also wanted to -- just a
minute, I am going to get that title -- I also wanted to talk
about other levels. It is international agencies that are
also involved in this. And that would be, oh gosh, the United
Nations. [Editor's Note: Ms. Moret is referring to the NHK
Special - "Collaborating to Create a Radioactive Fallout
Dr. Fetzer: The trouble is Leuren we have
run out of time. I cannot believe how much you have today,
and I look forward to having you back very, very soon. This
is Jim Fetzer, thanking my very special guest Leuren Moret
who is doing extraordinary about Fukushima and related issues
for being my guest here today, and all of you for listening.