Interview Transcript
Editor's Notes this is a "rush" transcription
provided
by William B. Fox, Publisher, America First Books
that is reasonably but not totally accurate for
my own false flag research purposes.
I have marked any transcription problems in brackets
Alfred Webre: Hello, I am Alfred Webre, and
once again we are with independent scientist Leuren Moret who
is here with yet another update on the Fukushima global tectonic
nuclear event. Leuren, welcome.
Leuren Moret: Thank you.
Webre: This is being recorded, by the way,
on Saturday, May 7th, 2011. And as I understand it, Leuren,
your current line of research has led you to a startling conclusion.
And that is that the Fukushima March 11, 2011 HAARP nuclear
attacks, were done by the U.S. CIA and Department of Energy,
DOE, on behalf of the City of London banks and bankers. Is that
correct?
Moret: That is correct. The weapons of mass
destruction exist for the international financiers. The London
and Wall Street bankers. Period.
Webre: Well, that is a remarkable conclusion
and you are not alone in that conclusion. As we understand it,
Claudia
von Werlhof, professor of political science and women's
studies at Innsbruck, Austria, has been laying some of the foundation
for these conclusions in general. And I was wondering if you
could begin to bring us through the remarkable research and
analysis that you have done that bring us to the conclusion
that you have reached.
Moret: Yes, I thought that professor Werlhof
really summarized it very well, and she is leading a movement
around the world of people concerned about how these weapons
are being used, specifically HAARP. And recently she stated,
"We have discovered that the military in the East and West
has developed new technologies which could attack the planet
and transform it into a weapon itself. This technological process
is by no means controlled by the public. Moreover, these technologies
can be used everywhere on the planet as plasma weapons, weather
wars, and geo-engineering." Dr. Werlhof observes that under
neo-liberal economic policy, social, cultural, traditional and
ecological considerations are abandoned, and give way to a mentality
of plundering. All global resources that we still have: forests,
water, genetic pools, have turned into objects of utilization.
Rapid ecological destruction through depletion is the consequence,
and actually this interview can be heard on the Internet and
I hope that you will post it with your article that you will
be sending around with the interview. So I think that is a very,
very good summary of the purpose and the perpetrators and the
applications for this horrific weapon system, and the Fukushima
power politics expose who is behind it. And it is the same people
behind hurricane Katrina disaster, Haiti, 9/11, the Sumatra
earthquake and tsunami, the Kobe earthquake. You and I have
done many interviews on different aspects of this HAARP design.
But I would like to really commend you for the House Resolution
Bill HR 2977 that was introduced by Congressman Dennis
Kucinich into the U.S. Congress, House of Representatives
in 2001 as the Space Preservation Act of 2001, and it was your
wonderful, wonderful succinct description of HAARP, and the
HAARP weapon system, which is land-based, sea-based, air-based,
and space-based which is now being rolled out with the New Year
actually, the New Year's Eve murder of Col Wheeler who was part
of the military advisors to U.S. Presidents, and he was certainly
involved with HAARP, because he was paid through the MITRE
Corporation which was involved in 9-11. But the Jason
scientists who developed HAARP for the military, and they
are the successors to the Manhattan Project scientists, and
they are also paid through the MITRE Corporation.
Webre: Well you know I was recently contacted
by constituents in a newly developed Congressional district
of the State of Washington where apparently representative Dennis
Kucinich has been redistricted in Ohio so he no longer has a
district there, and he is sort of forum-shopping now, and they
approached me to ask me whether he was certainly a star power,
but whether he was a reliable Congress person. And I said that
they should approach him and get in writing promises that he
would support the bill to ban HAARP and chemtrails in writing.
Not only as a candidate, but once he got to the U.S. Congress
if he was elected, so that we wouldn't have what occurred in
the U.S. Congress where Mr. Kucinich withdrew this bill precipitously
in 2001, HR 2977, and as a result he dealt a death blow to the
statutory banning of HAARP and of chemtrails for an entire decade
into that movement. And he did so without notice to any of us
who had drafted that particular bill. So I just wanted to give
public notice that we had notified the constituents in the state
of Washington where there is now news articles that Mr. Kucinich
is apparently either testing the political waters, or intends
to run in that district.
Moret: Good. I think he is not very trustworthy.
Webre: Well, you know, it is just once bitten,
twice shy. And these are very serious matters. Sorry, since
you raised that issue, I thought that it was important to make
a political footnote. [8:45]
Moret: I think it is very important because
after I read that, I actually was an environmental commissioner
in the city of Berkeley at the time, and I said that if I could
get a city resolution passed that supported the Space Preservation
Act of 2001, then maybe other cities would also adopt the resolution.
So I did manage to get the Space Resolution passed in the city
of Berkeley which banned space weapons, including missiles in
the air space from 60 miles above Berkeley into space. And that
is actually an enforceable law. And much to my surprise, you
gave me a lot of support and help and guidance and everything
when I was writing it -- when we were writing it --
but when you informed me it was being adopted all over Canada,
I was really shocked, and I went up to Canada to go out and
meet the first mayor who had adopted it, on one of the islands
in British Columbia, and I was really shocked on the bus before
I arrived in Vancouver to read that Prime Minister Paul Martin
had been forced to rescind the secret treaty he made, the secret
agreement with George Bush, to adopt missile defense. And people
all over Canada used the Berkeley resolution to gather thousands
of signatures which they took into Parliament and forced him
to rescind that secret agreement, and of course I knew that
he would soon be out of office. And six months later, between
Christmas and New Years, he was removed from office. But it
made a difference. Your treaty or your Space Preservation Act
in Congress and the Berkeley Resolution influenced the elections
in Canada, so it is something citizens must remember that we
can do small things that sometimes have a very big impact.
Webre: Exactly, good, well I did not mean to
derail the direction of this interview, so let me just restate
what really the headline of the interview is, and that is the
Fukushima, HAARP, nuclear attacks of March 11, 2011 were upon
investigation done by the U.S. CIA and Department of Energy
for the benefit of the London City bankers.
Moret: That is correct.
Webre: Let us resume that kind of line there.
Moret: Now one characteristic of a HAARP event
is foreshadowing. Foreshadowing is either a creation of the
act itself, which happens later on, some time later, or aspects
of it are introduced or used as drills, or whatever. There were
three very outstanding foreshadowing events which I believe
are part of the Fukushima disaster being set up. And one was
the impact of the Sellafield nuclear reprocessing plant on India,
on the death of 25 million Indian babies during the period that
very large amounts of radiation were being dumped into the Irish
Sea. And as a scientist on that project stated to the environmental
committee in the Parliament, he said that Sellafield is the
biggest nuclear polluter in the world. And so I began to wonder
why the British would be dumping such huge amounts of radiation
into the Irish Sea which has now migrated throughout Scandinavia
and contaminated their fisheries, and has gone into the Arctic.
But what was more shocking than anything was the discovery through
an Indian scientist that that Sellafield radiation had migrated
south into the Great Conveyor Belt which is the huge circulation
system that loops around the Atlantic up into the Pacific and
then back up into the Atlantic and it is what controls climate,
and is a tremendous heat sink on the planet. It is a terribly
important circulation system that affects everyone, every living
thing, and every aspect of physical processes on this earth.
And in my article Global
Implications of Sellafield, Irish Sea Coast Effect and Beyond,
I described the science and the explanation and the physical
aspects of how this occurred, and then I was able to document
through this Indian scientist the actual number of deaths of
Indian infants who were killed by the radiation from Sellafield
carried halfway around the world, and then I began to think
about that when as the Fukushima disaster rolled out and I realized
they are doing exactly the same thing in the Pacific from Fukushima.
And that radiation is being leaked into the sea. It is being
picked up by coastal currents and getting into the Great Conveyor
Belt. It is being carried around the North Pacific, down the
coast of North America, and then it sort of circulates out around
the Pacific in a great gyre, but it also becomes incorporated
in the great conveyor belt and will end up in the Atlantic.
Now the danger of that is this radiation washes up on the shoreline
and causes increases in chronic illnesses that we know from
the after effects of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, the after
effects of the nuclear bomb tests which occurred between 1952
to 1963, when the Partial Test Ban Treaty ended atmospheric
testing by Russia, the U.S., and the UK, and then we know the
effects from nuclear power plants, and now Fukushima which is
a new form of actually nuclear war against civilian populations,
as well as the biosphere. So they have weaponized the biosphere.
Now, the second foreshadowing event was the earthquake that
occurred and damaged the Niigata nuclear power plant which is
on the west coast of Japan facing the China Sea, and exactly
opposite from where Fukushima is located. That happened a few
years ago, and I believe that was a foreshadowing event for
Fukushima. The third very strong indicator is the presence of
a U.S. Naval ship offshore when the Fukushima earthquake happened,
and that was the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan which seemed to be standing
by as the earthquake happened. And of course this is a similar
naval standby that was observed off of New Orleans during Hurricane
Katrina, off of Haiti during the Haiti earthquake, and off of
Sumatra during the Sumatra earthquake and tsunami. So there
seems to be a U.S. Naval presence standing by each of these
HAARP events when they occur. So that is consistent, those three
things are consistent with a HAARP event. The government complicity
seems to also be consistent. We have seen it with the Haiti,
Sumatra and the Katrina disasters. And also with the BP disaster,
which occurred not very long ago in the Caribbean. Now in Japan
the government complicity was just absolutely horrendous. TEPCO
was appearing to be incompetent in its response, its
very slow and ineffective response to damages to six nuclear
power plants at Fukushima. Chernobyl was just one, and it was
a much smaller one, yet they had it under control very rapidly
within just a couple of weeks. But we have been nearly two months
now and Fukushima is not under control. Far from it. Now it
seems that TEPCO was not actually running the response. The
government and the regulatory agencies and the international
agencies such as the IAEA, the UN, and the WHO said very little,
but someone was running that response, and we now know that
it was the Department of Energy. I thought it was General Electric,
but I knew it was an American -- a U.S. Government involvement
because we have 14 military bases in Japan and the Rockefellers
bought up a lot of the disaster landscape after World War II
in Japan, including radioactive Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And
they have made huge fortunes in rebuilding Japan and if you
want to know who owns SONY, we thought it was a Japanese company,
but actually it stands for Standard Oil of New York. So it is
the Rockefellers who own SONY as well. Now there were very low-level
people left in the plant and this is right after the explosions
occurred which made it impossible for cooling systems to work.
But actually all the reactors were in melt-down 90 minutes after
the earthquake because 90 minutes after the cooling system stops,
a reactor goes into melt-down, and there was no way to get the
cooling system started. The main cooling system that operates
normally has the pump down on the beach. Why in the world you
put a pump for a nuclear power plant where a magnitude 8 or
greater earthquake happens every five years, and the history
of Japan and tsunamis, I mean that is a Japanese word for these
huge tidal waves that are caused by large magnitude earthquakes,
so that would seem a very, very poor design. Also, the backup
first system, which was a diesel backup cooling system, was
in the basement under the reactor. Why in the world
would you put a power plant right on the ocean and then put
the back up cooling system under the reactor in a room, a basement
room, that would immediately be flooded? So it seems like it
wasn't just poor design. It seems like there was planning, very
careful planning, that would sabotage the safety of these nuclear
power plants in the event of earthquakes and tsunamis. Of course
the diesel system flooded. The workers tried to get the pump
on the beach to start up, they couldn't do that. There was no
electricity coming into the plant, so they resorted to their
last backup system, which is battery driven, and even that couldn't
work because a Stuxnet virus created by the CIA with the help
of Siemens and the Mossad was also involved. It sabotaged the
operating system in the power plant, and no matter what they
did to correct whatever they could correct, including probably
the software and the operating system, it was immediately changed
back to the sabotage code, and this was done remotely through
satellites, probably NSA. So those nuclear power plants, all
six of them, have absolutely been in melt-down since 90 minutes
after the earthquake. Also, no expert engineers have been allowed
in the plant. They would know how to deal with this issue. This
really requires the aid of an international consortium of experts
and governments and military to resolve this issue. But it is
too late now. The molten fuel has burned through the bottom
of the reactors. Melted through the bottom of the reactors.
It is in the ground now. It has even melted through the bottom
of the operating plant. So the secrecy in the past week has
intensified during this first week of May, 2011. So it is not
getting better, it is getting worse. And the United States Government
has been complicit in this. They confiscated iodine supplies
that U.S. citizens should have been taking. Actually they should
have evacuated the West Coast of North America. We are all terribly
contaminated now. And they used weather modification to cause
two weeks of rain beginning March 18th to the 30th when the
highly radioactive dust and nanoparticles were arriving in huge
plumes that went all over North America, the Arctic, Mexico,
and then part of what was carried out to Hawaii in that Pacific
gyre that I mentioned, circulation system. And when you look
at iodine levels in the northern hemisphere, Japan has the highest,
this is radioactive iodine, Hawaii has the second highest, which
is nearly tied with the West Coast of North America, but with
slightly less, and that radiation went across the Atlantic straight
into the Mediterranean. And North Africa, Israel, Lebanon, Syria,
Turkey, and the Middle East are all now contaminated. And it
went over the Northwest Territories and the Arctic into the
North Atlantic and contaminated all of Scandinavia and into
Russia. So we truly have a global radiation disaster that is
not getting better, it is getting worse every day, and this
is two months later. And, I mean just to really make it really
clear that the U.S. is complicit in it, the public health departments
in two counties that I have letters from, and I am sure it was
in all counties and probably all states, went out on March 17th,
the day before the radiation arrived from the unit one explosion,
and all doctors, medical doctors were instructed not to provide
iodine tablets or any iodine protection to patients who were
concerned about exposure. There were also people in full body
suits in Santa Clara County which is where Stanford University
and Silicon Valley are, and they were taking water samples in
full high level contamination gear, and they chased citizens
and people away where they were taking the samples. People were
asking why they were doing it. And the EPA did exactly the same
thing as the World Trade Center site. They were taking air samples
with oxygen tanks on their backs on the highest level of protective
gear. Now we had from March 18th to the 30th very, very heavy
rains along the Pacific Coastline, at least in California and
I had reports from Arizona, and these correspond to --these
started on March 18th, the day the radiation arrives, and the
military has said since 1947, even in public newspapers, that
the most efficient form of nuclear war is to explode bombs in
rain clouds. Well, what they have done is substitute
a nuclear power plant on fire and releasing the same thing that
comes out of nuclear bombs into the global atmosphere, the northern
hemisphere. But what is here today is somewhere else tomorrow,
and it only takes about a week for radiation to arrive from
Japan in California. So what is going to happen is that, well,
President Obama took his family to the southern hemisphere.
He was not even in the northern hemisphere for two weeks after
the earthquake, and Governor Jerry Brown, whose sister works
for Goldman Sachs, in other words the Rothschilds and the City
of London bankers, he declared an emergency because of the heavy
rains and flooding. We were having an inch an hour for two weeks
in some places, and California has an average of 14 inches a
year, and this is also the end of the rainy season, so why in
the world would we have more rain in two weeks than we have
had probably in ten years? However, Jerry Brown never mentioned
radiation at all. And the EPA is not reporting radiation levels
from their 124 radiation monitors all over the United States.
And what is really alarming, Alfred, and I want the audience
to be sure to not go out in the rain, and if they have to, to
cover themselves completely, including gloves, because this
radiation will go right through their skin into their tissues
and blood. And globally, the highest increase in autism and
diabetes, new cases, diagnosed, always occur when the rain begins
in countries and cities and regions around the world. So clearly,
something is washing out of the sky, out of the atmosphere in
the rain drops and in snow that is causing autism and diabetes.
And I when I went to Japan, and I got the vital statistics of
Japan, the government data on health and disease, I was able
to go back to 1898 before there was any manmade radiation in
the environment. That is the real baseline. And that data, when
I put it on a graph proved that the large rise in chronic illnesses
since 1945 and the introduction of the nuclear age have occurred
with the introduction of nuclear technology. [31:4]
Webre: Right. Exactly. Now, you have also someone
who has just brought you a new report on the Japanese response
to the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that might be
relevant to the Fukushima event.
Moret: Yes, this is very, very important, very
critical information that I received two hours ago from Shingo
Annen [Editor's note: stage name "Shing02"].
And he is a Japanese --he is an electrical engineer. He is a
graduate of UC Berkeley, and he interviewed me a few years ago
about the dangers of Japan's new reprocessing plant, the Rokkasho
nuclear plant on the top of Japan, Honshu. And he came to
see me and bring new information, and what he said was that
the Japanese response to the atomic bombs that were dropped
on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a worldwide cry about the horrific
genocide resulting -- and the long term effects -- resulting
from dropping atomic bombs on a human population both in Hiroshima
and Nagasaki. And they went all over the world trying to alert
other governments and people about these horrific weapons that
the U.S. Government had used. And they are completely illegal.
They are weapons of mass destruction and indiscriminate killers.
And they release pernicious poisons that last millions of years.
But they were also interested in covering their complicity and
guilt from the crimes they committed in World War II. And the
U.S. entered Japan, and there is a brand new book out that was
just released in March 2011 that is a much more thorough investigation
of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the health effects and the actual
contamination plume from Hiroshima and Nagasaki that contaminated
all of Japan. And this was carried out by an occupational period
historian. He is really a historian. His name is Yukuo Sasamoto.
And it was actually Japanese government funding that supported
publication of this book. Sasamoto died two years ago, but thank
goodness he did this. And what this book revealed is that although
the U.S. was concerned about the residual radiation in Hiroshima
and Nagasaki, they actually did not know very much about the
actual biological effects of the bombing would be on survivors,
and the population of Japan, but the U.S. Government certainly
knew they wanted a nuclear weapons program, and this was actually
their first live experiment on humans. It is illegal to do human
experimentation, but they did it anyway. And of course the nuclear
project has always been a very racist project. And the Japanese
are indigenous people, and the weapons of mass destruction are
very, very frequently used on indigenous people for the purpose
of carrying out land grabs and resource grabs. The U.S. wanted
to hide the horrific effects, just like they are hiding today
the effects of depleted uranium and fourth generation nuclear
weapons they have been using in Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan,
Gaza, Israel, Lebanon, and now Fukushima. So what the U.S. did
was they collected the data in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and they
sandwiched it and hid the effects with the cooperation of the
Japanese government. And there are lots and lots of filters
in the U.S. and the Japanese governments in effect since World
War II that continue to be used and implemented to hide the
effects of radiation from nuclear power plants and now Fukushima.
So Hiroshima and Nagasaki are just exactly the same being carried
out as the Fukushima -- I mean the Hiroshima and Nagasaki cover-up
is being carried out once again on Fukushima. They are being
carried out exactly the same way. Now what Shingo Annen told
me today is that he got a copy of the PDF, a copy of the U.S.-Japan
joint Fukushima-Chernobyl map, and what they did was measure
Caesium levels all over northern Japan, and they superimposed
a radiation map of Chernobyl on top of that and it looks very
much the same. But he hacked the PDF, and what he discovered
was the PDF of the map had two layers to it. And the top layer
was labeled a joint U.S.-Japan Caesium survey, but underneath
that layer was the original base document of the map with the
title at the bottom indicating that it was a U.S. Department
of Energy original document. Therefore the U.S.-DOE produced
the original document. It was not a joint project with Japan,
and it indicates that the Department of Energy as in Chernobyl
has been complicit and highly involved in this cover-up from
the very beginning, in fact, running it, and TEPCO was just
following their orders. Now the U.S. DOE personnel from Livermore
Lab where I was, where at Chernobyl right after the accident,
and one scientist produced a fraudulent report that completely
minimized and sanitized that disaster. An Indian Admiral told
me that Chernobyl was a false flag that was carried out against
the Soviet Union to end the Cold War. And now in a very similar
way Fukushima is a false flag being carried out covertly to
bring a transformation to Japan's economy and viability and
role in Asia as well as the unification of the North American
continent into one region which will be run or structured like
the European Union. So we are in a very, very, very dangerous
stage now. And you can see how these bankers have used weapons
of mass destruction, and the Department of Energy and CIA and
Japanese Government as their agents in carrying out the most
horrific false flag that has ever been carried out in the history
of the world.
Webre: Right. Now I didn't want to get you
off track, what are --you say that they are covering up, in
other words Japanese professors from Tokyo have been constantly
downplaying the danger of Fukushima radiation. It is entirely
off any public agenda in North America, in Canada, in the U.S.
or in Mexico. What is the actual state of radiation here, what
is occurring if this is in fact six Chernobyls, some with plutonium.
[41:15]
Moret: Well, no one really knows, but the agencies
of the programs in Europe that actually do the radiation monitoring
globally for the nonproliferation treaty, one of them is located
in Cologne University in Germany, another one is in Norway,
and they have done excellent monitoring. They have had animated
maps over a three day period that indicate the levels of the
radiation. The concentrations of radiation in becquerel
per cubic meter of air. They have done a fantastic job of informing
the public and informing the scientific community about the
real hazard and the real danger, and North America is in very,
very grave, very serious trouble as well as Alaska and Hawaii.
And it is almost in Hawaii and the West Coast of North America,
it is not that much less than in Japan. So we have years ahead
of very large increases in chronic illnesses, decrease in fertility,
and already because of nuclear power plants in Japan and Chernobyl
and Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan had one of the lowest fertility
rates in the world, in fact their death rates are higher than
their birth rates, which means their populations are shrinking.
Now the Japanese professors, and almost all of them were from
Tokyo and Nagasaki universities have been on television constantly
downplaying the harm from Fukushima radiation exposure to the
food supply, to fish in the ocean, and Fukushima is located
right where the richest fishery in Japan is. So all of that
will be contaminated. The fisheries in the north Pacific --the
big salmon runs in Alaska, all of that is going to be contaminated
and there will be a catastrophic drop in the fishing catch,
I can guarantee, because just bomb-testing in the North Pacific
did that, and that was not nearly as much radiation as what
has been released from Fukushima. So it is rather odd, Shingo
Annen told me that these professors from Tokyo and Nagasaki
universities who have been on television downplaying Fukushima
effects have also done research and written papers and published
them on Chernobyl and Nagasaki and Hiroshima so they know very
well what the effects are, and what they will be. And yet they
are contradicting themselves in live interviews, contradicting
what they have written in their published reports. But if they
do not talk the right talk on television, they will no longer
have grants, and they will no longer be able to do research.
[45:07]
Webre: Right. Now could you tell us more about
the role of the U.S. Department of Energy in this?
Moret: Yes, well what I learned from some Mongolians,
I was able to convince 50 Mongolians in Tokyo to evacuate right
after the first reactor exploded. But I was not so successful
with the Japanese. They have a different culture and they are
reluctant to leave family members, the elderly, and so forth.
Usually in Japan a family and a village and a city a population
go through a disaster -- whatever happens -- they go through
it together. That is very sad, because the young children will
have permanent genetic damage if they remain in these contaminated
regions. And that is permanently passed on to all future generations.
It never repairs itself. So if Japan wants to survive as a country
and a culture, they need healthy people, healthy Japanese who
are not contaminated to reproduce. And you cannot possibly have
a healthy, viable population that keeps a country going after
a disaster like this because of the extensive genetic damage.
And something that occurred in Japan after Hiroshima and Nagasaki
to the survivors is that no one will marry them. They have to
marry other survivors. They are taboo, they are discriminated
against, and they are shunned by the healthy Japanese population
because they don't want the damaged DNA in their family bloodlines.
It is very sad. The Department of Energy, I learned, had a woman
from Mongolia come to the Lawrence Livermore Lab for two years
and she went back to Mongolia and introduced uranium mining
to that country. And the Mongolians are wonderful people. I
also learned that she was at the Lawrence, Livermore Lab and
that when she went back, some of the French mining companies
were mining the uranium, contaminating the whole environment,
the water, the people, and I just said "I bet AREVA,
the big nuclear power company in France is involved." China
is growing potatoes at the Chinese nuclear test site in Mongolia
in contaminated soil. Highly radioactive soil, and those potatoes
are for the Mongolian food market. In other words, China is
using radiation to depopulate Mongolia for land grabs, water,
resources, and so forth. And there it is, the Department of
Energy who initiated the uranium mining projects in Mongolia.
Radiation, Alfred, is an efficient and effective way to weaken
populations. And by causing disease, contaminating, food, they
can sell pharmaceuticals and make huge profits, and they can
also get better control and total control over populations that
have been weakened by radiation exposure. We are living under
a global totalitarian scientific oligarchy, and Fukushima equals
the U.S. Department of Energy and BP operating together to the
benefit of the London bankers.
Webre: How exactly does BP, British Petroleum,
which figured centrally in the BP-Gulf false flag operation,
how do they figure into Fukushima?
Moret: Well, it is very interesting. Dr. Steven
Chu, who is a Chinese America, was at Stanford University doing
research on alternative energy, solar energy, I believe, technologies.
And he won the Nobel Prize and was suddenly moved, almost immediately,
to the Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, which is a Department
of Energy facility that has been turned over to the University
of California. And as soon as he became director, he was only
a director for a couple of years, BP gave Dr. Chu half a billion
dollars to develop the Helios
Project which is a research village or a research park conducting
research on energy for BP. Of course the American people are
going to end up paying for a lot for the cost of that research.
And BP will be the beneficiary of that research. But as soon
as Obama came into office, Dr. Steven Chu was appointed director
of the Department of Energy. And he immediately hired or appointed
Dr.
Steven E. Koonin, his under secretary for science, and Koonin
is a former British Petroleum scientist. But he was also a JASON,
which as I mentioned are the successors to the Manhattan Project
scientists, and they are the ones who developed HAARP. He is
very interested, and has done research and is interested in
the global environmental science, in astro physics, and he is
a physicist. So HAARP is his sand box, if you want to put it
that way. Now they together, Dr. Steven Chu and Dr. Steven Koonin
oversaw the British Petroleum disaster in the Gulf. And they
stood back and did nothing. They allowed the total poisoning
of the Gulf with Corexit, which was a chemical -- a very dangerous
chemical -- that makes the oil sink into the ocean so that people
will not see it floating on the surface. They have also been
overseeing the Fukushima disaster. Now I also know Chu and Koonin
are eliminating alternative forms of power such as coal. Chu
is in the process of dismantling the coal industry. The London
bankers own all of the oil companies now, and they want to eliminate
competitors. Some other interesting aspects of Dr. Koonin are
that he was at Cal Tech. He hired one third of the scientists
there now on the faculty, the professorial faculty while he
was the provost of Cal Tech. And he was the chief scientist
of BP between 2004 and 2009. He was also very involved in playing
a central role in establishing the Helios Project which is the
energy biosciences institute at the University of California,
but listen to this, he was also on the Trilateral Commission
which involves Japan, and he is on the Council of Foreign Relations
now, so he is clearly a CIA scientist through and through with
ties to the City of London. And that would be BP. The Queen
of England owns British Petroleum. [54:05]
Webre: Right. Now we have just about six minutes
left in this segment --
Moret: We have what? I couldn't hear you?
Webre: We have about six minutes left in this
segment. Do you want to wrap up these points, or do you --
Moret: I would sort of like to have a cross
comments with you. I would just like to call this Fukushima
power politics, the CIA, US Department of Energy, and TEPCO
joint project for London. And that is basically British Petroleum.
And it is about the population of the northern hemisphere and
global coastlines. Now most indigenous peoples live and get
their food from coastlines around the world. And it is not just
the indigenous people, however, who are the target now. It is
also the civilian populations. And this is in order to carry
out land grabs, resource grabs, and to eliminate competition.
And just remember that Chu is Chinese American, and Koonin worked
for BP. So there are two big power centers: China and London
represented by these two who are now in charge of the Department
of Energy.
Webre: So all the facts that you have presented
us so far really seem at a very high level of rigor to point
back to the depopulation plans of the founders of the Bilderberg
group, namely the throne of the British monarchy, the British
aristocracy, the City of London, the Rockefeller interests.
Sort of the Satanic monarchies of Europe. And even the leadership
of the Communist Chinese. Don't forget that Mao Tse Tung was
trained by a Skull and Bones project from Yale in China, and
Communism essentially was an Illuminati project. So this all
seems like to be part of the New World Order attempted "culling
of the herd."
Moret: Well, it is impossible to deny that.
Webre: Now this seems to be a great focus using
nuclear energy. That is, depleted uranium, the atmospheric testing,
and now the nuclear power plants using weapons of mass destruction
like HAARP in conjunction with nuclear power plants to have
radiation attacks throughout the troposphere and throughout
the world. How effective do you think this is going to be, and
is there any way that this radiation can be reversed?
Moret: I think it is going to be extremely
effective. They have been measuring the dose that they delivered
to Iraq. There is a Cheney agent named [M. Jean-François]
Fechino
who is a French-Italian journalist who Cheney hired to go to
Iraq and actually take samples all over Iraq, and he made a
report he calls himself part of the UN, or associated with a
UN environmental program, and he was recording the radiation
in becquerel
per square meter per kilogram of soil per square meter of soil,
per kilogram of soil. And I believe he did air samples too,
and then the next place he turned up was in Gaza, and he was
doing dose sampling there. So obviously Bush, Cheney,
the CIA -- the people who are carrying this out are administering
a dose with a certain response that has been calculated, and
they know very well, probably to several decimal points, exactly
how many people are going to die, how many will be diseased,
and how many will be completely infertile. And it is very ironic,
but one of the fastest dropping fertility rates in the world
is in Israel, where we have given Israel these horrific bombs
with depleted uranium and fourth generation nuclear weapons
in them. And then this new weapon called DIME, which is a very
lethal tungsten alloy that in rat studies it causes 100% tumor
genesis. If you get one speck of it in you, every speck becomes
a tumor, and it migrates very rapidly to the lungs, and there
was 100% mortality in the rats within seven months. So there
is a very, very toxic mix of extremely lethal, invisible, tasteless
weapons that are having a global effect. And believe me, they
know. They can can count every single atom, they are monitoring
every radioactive atom. From satellites. They send helicopters
out over the oceans because they are monitoring for illegal
underground nuclear weapons testing. But they are also sampling
for the effects of their own weapons. And it is a big system
with many systems inside it. But they are all working together,
and when I found a HAARP facility in Japan, I saw the aerial
photo of it, and it is operated out of Kyoto University. Kyoto
is the traditional headquarters of the imperial family and the
imperial court for a thousand years, and I also was told by
a Japanese professor that Osaka University has a fourth generation
nuclear weapons program. I checked on it and it sure was there.
Osaka is the traditional headquarters since the 1700s of the
Rothschilds, and they chose it because it is halfway between
-- and Kyoto and Edo, which is now Tokyo. Edo was the headquarters
of the Shogun. So this is power politics on a very high level,
very sophisticated level. Very few people know about it, and
it is only because I started mapping disease and understanding
how diseases related to the environment that I began to understand
the framework of this global horrific plan that they have, an
agenda that they are absolutely carrying out. And as global
citizenry we must take charge of our own health. We must take
charge of our own remedies to disease. We build community and
share this with each other, and it is a local community, a regional
community, and a global community, and we are the only ones
who are going to bring the answer on how we will survive this
and how we will get through this and get our children and future
generations through it. And there is a way to survive. There
are technologies that we can resort to and discover, and I believe
that this is a great example of the Chinese wei
ji character for disaster, which is also the same character
for opportunity. So this is an opportunity for the citizens
of the world, for you and me and everyone who is listening to
this message to work together, and find new solutions and build
the world that we really want and to walk away from this horrific
disaster. And I will tell you something. Putin, the former President
of Russia who was KGB under the Soviet Union, and is now Prime
Minister, and will soon be President again, he said "This
will never work. This project that they are attempting, they
are going to try to do this as a one world government,"
but he said "It will never work. A lot of people will be
hurt, but it will never work." So we have to have faith
in what we know. What we have realized through critical thinking,
and our intuition has given that awareness to us, and we have
to share that with each other and empower each other, and Alfred,
I never ever could possibly be doing this without all the love
and support you have given me over the years. So I want to thank
you.
Webre: Well, thank you. On that larger note,
we have come to the end of this segment, we would like to invite
you back for a future program to talk specifically about what
it is that we as individuals and as a community can empower
ourselves to do to get through this latest challenge. Thank
you very much.
Moret: Thank you very much, it was great.
Webre: OK, thank you.
Moret: Bye, bye.
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